Even so, I have found our conversations helpful in clarifying what lines of argument I find more convincing. I am turned off by anything that smells of xenophobia or anti-intellectualism, no matter how subtle. I am also turned off by any form of ethical reasoning that puts the earlier prophets and later apostles on par with Jesus, no matter how well intentioned. That my friend largely avoids these pitfalls is why I find his arguments more compelling than that of his supposed representatives. I would love to hear more Christ centred arguments from conservative Christians but ironically I find they are hard to come by. It leaves me feeling that the religious rhetoric of many politicians is little more than a fig leaf. I do however accept that there are thoughtful, welcoming, conservative Christ-centred Christians out there. I just wish I could find more, whatever their political leanings.